pendleton. particularly he talked about the choppy waters, and of course referring to the problems that have rocked the catholic church. the frightful sex abuse scandal that erupted first in the u.s. and then came here under his papacy. his attempts to deal with it. but not having finished the job, and people wanting to clean house and to move on from this thing that has so damaged the church. >> let me ask you to put on your global affairs anchor hat. for catholics, obviously this is an important moment. a beautiful moment in many ways. for non-catholics around the world, why does this matter? >> well, you know, i think -- and i've thought about this a lot -- i'm a roman catholic, and yet the pope has always been a statesman. he's always been somebody who doesn't just minister to roman catholics, but his movements, his pronouncements, what he says, what he does, where he goes, the fact that he's visited and sought out by all world leaders makes him much more than that. so what he does and says